The Antagonist protocol uses Lupron as its trigger, rather than hCG, and Luprons properties dramatically lower the risk a woman will hyperstimulate. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. Thanks! 1) focus on the quality (not quantity) of eggs. After 5 days of estrogen priming Follitropin alpha (Gonal F, 600 IU/day, s.c.) is started. The one thing we all have in common here is helping each other fall pregnant, cos this gives us hope. Was wondering since your AMH was good and FSH, why did they recommend the Estrogen priming protocol for you? No, IVF 5 was the estrogen priming. I starts on day 1 of my cycle for 25-26 days of estrace.. Not sure why.. undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. 1997-2023 BabyCenter, LLC, a Ziff Davis company. Our first cycles sound pretty similar. My story: I'm 34, DH 32. Right ovary has 2-4 follies<12mm. Estrogen priming is typically done for about seven days before the start of controlled ovarian stimulation (the IVF cycle). Cetrotide was added CD9. I am 38. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. poor responders or women with PCOS). The answer lies in the drug the protocol uses to trigger the eggs to mature so that they can be retrieved. Anyhoo, I am just curious whose done this and what the difference was in terms of their egg numbers and quality.especially if anyone used it for quality. Ivf doctor recommendation in nyc or bklyn, Low Ovarian Reserve and Poor Responder to IVF, Ladies 45 and older TTC - *infertility due to age only*. I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. As a result, the Antagonist strategy is generally preferred for women at especially high risk of developing OHSS, namely women with PCOS, younger women, women with high AMH or AFCs, African American women, and those who produced a high number of eggs in a recent cycle. I might have ovulated rather than had empty follicles. All rights reserved. He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. The data supporting the use of growth hormone in poor responders leading up to gonadotropin use is more convincing. Estrogen priming is usually matched with an antagonist to prevent ovulation. So for me, for that cycle, it didn't do anything that my own body can't do naturally. This is the most commonly used protocol whose primary features are a shorter duration of injections and a far lower rate of OHSS, thanks to the ability to use Lupron as a trigger. IVF#5 July 2010 - will be using estrogen priming I also did ganirelix during this time. I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. I did a low stim ivf (225 menopur & 100 mg clomid) with human growth hormone which is what my fertilty clinic does for women over 40 and poor responders. We are OOP as well. But there is one more protocol to consider: a flare cycle. Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. I am planning on doing 2-3 cycles with banking and then CCS testing due to previous miscarriages. Froze 3. Sadly, both my hatching blasts were abnormal. IVF #2, we did estrogen priming, Follistim, Menopur, Tev Tropin (human growth hormone), Cetrotide. The idea is to give your body about 5-7 days of Estrogen Priming. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). I also did estrogen priming with the mini. Ultimately, for only a handful of patient types has one protocol shown itself to be superior to the others and we profile those below. Northwestern Medicine. Outdoor sports and activities of all types. It was my best in terms of numbers and success. DS was born June 22nd, 2007!!!!! Julie, will be KMFX for you and those embryos! Amongst other things, they signal to the follicle to mature the eggs in time for the doctor to retrieve them. I also did human growth on 2 cycles and didn't help a bit. Thanks for sharing your story. If you did it did you have success, what is your situation, did you do pills or patches and for how long, etc.? FertilitySmarts Inc. - I credit the advice I received on this forum both from members and from experts, my infertility doctor and my push for the estrogen priming protocol for the family that I have today. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. There are two downsides to this protocols: The long duration of injections (they start the previous cycle) and. Clomid is cheap, easy to take (oral), drives less risk of OHSS, but is less effective. Lupron when take in larger doses suppresses pituitary function, but when taken in smaller doses, it does the opposite. I think if I hadn't EPP, I wouldn't have had to stim so high. Estrogen/androgen priming protocol improves egg quality and . Several functions may not work. Ganirelix is contraindicated in pregnancy. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. I asked my local RE about it, but she wasn't familiar enough with it to try. The Ukrainian Tribute Growout is a great opportunity for tomato lovers to get their hands on some unique and delicious varieties. After seven long years consumed by infertility I am finally moving forward, wishing my son was with me, but grateful for the two children I have here with me. Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) are used to stimulate the ovaries to recruit and develop more than one follicle. I think you both are at Cornell (were) with this estrogen priming protocol will you try again with them, and request not to do estrogen priming? Worked for me! I then switched clinics. First round I had few follicles 10 and scattered growth after taking bcp before cycles for about 13 days; Tried epp round after that, and had more synchronized growth with same number of follicles. Buy Organic Seeds Risk Free From Organic Seeds TOP - Credit Card & Western Union Payment Options, Organic Seeds TOP is a seed vendor based in the Ukraine. - Apply first estrogen patch. Terms of Use - They are using an estrogen prime this month and I will start my next cycle next month. I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. Please enable JavaScript in your browser to load the challenge. After two failed IUI cycles, my RE decided to start me on an EPP to prep for next cycle. FET October 6, 2010 - this is it Learn more about. After 2 years, tons of tests and 5 IVF cycles, it still feels unreal.Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. This typically happens with conventional insemination where the egg and the sperm are placed in the same culture environment for fertilization We're banking this cycle and testing them with the biopsies from the next. I did EPP, using a climara patch every other day starting day 8 after ovulation until period came. Recent Topics They thought they saw 4 follicles, but were only able to collect 2. Or are there different levels of this? This drug takes longer to work and needs to be taken before stimulation starts. Find other members in this community to connect with. I did have a decent response on the MDL and 100% fertilization with two good 5 day blasts. Of course, during a regular cycle most women naturally produce only a single mature egg. Thanks for well wishes. Patients undergoing a MFP required more injections (40 vs. 26) than an EPP and spent an average of $4,375.00 compared to EPP patients who spent $5,485.00. I sounds like a good plan since the first protocol didn't work out so great. Trying concieve since 40 They suppress leading up to your cycle so that when you start the meds you get a group of follicles to grow together. This drugs known as the trigger shot. I think you should ask your doctor though to make sure.Again, here is what happened to my protocolCycle day 1 - PeriodCycle day 24 (7 days post ovulation) - Start Estrace Cycle day 1 - Period Cycle day 2 - Last Estrace pill Cycle day 3 Blood work & ultrasound; antral follicle count. These drugs signal to the brain not to instigate ovulation. Twins & Multiples: Your Tentative Time Table. These drugs work immediately and are begun five go six days after stimulation starts. It helps your lining and encourages your eggs to all grow at the same rate. For this reason, the antagonist protocol is a good option for those women most susceptible to OHSS. While gonadotropin is the critical drug in most every protocol, its not the only drug. However, weve yet to see a large, rigorous, prospective, randomized trial on the subject. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. I am curious what anyone's experience has been with EPP. Cost: $1,000. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. I was long Lupron and that one was cancelled because my precious RE only saw very few follies. I dont know as much about micro flare. Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, xx, Oww Hun, please dont worry about me, look after yourself, here if you need a listening ear xxx. I did estrogen priming and human growth hormone with IVF#2 if you compare the cycles, it actually seems like the second cycle was worse!! Below is data collected on over 3,000 cycles for each protocol approach in the Netherlands. I am 40 and have a low ovarian reserve. I had success with EPP after failing with other protocols. Another gardener is pla. Waft really helped was upping gonal f and removing menopur. Typically, a poor responder is someone who meets two of three criteria: they have collected three or fewer eggs on a previous cycle, is over age 40, or who has a diminished ovarian reserve (antral follicle count below 5 or an AMH below below 0.5). Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill. SG usually sticks to their protocol for the first round, then if it fails, they'll start customizing. However, when it comes to specific IVF populations, its clear that certain strategies and doses are better than others. 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By and large there are two easy ways to think about protocols: how much gonadotropin (the drug that prompts follicles to grow) gets used, and what other drugs get used alongside the gonadotropin which is typically what defines a given protocol strategy. So.. I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. I'm back from my appt and we are going with EPP. Today, were seeing more well-respected doctors choosing to compliment lower dose of gonadotropin with clomid or letrozole in this group. Often two other types of drugs are needed to accompany gonadotropin: those that block eggs from maturing and being ovulated before they can be retrieved, and those that help trigger the eggs to mature so they can be retrieved. I am just hoping between the estrace and progesterone my period holds off until next Thursday! (This was to work with their schedule, because they are closed on the weekends.) You currently have javascript disabled. I did EPP with my 3rd cycle and it didn't help. I am scheduled to take estrace 7 days after ovulation coming up (the cycle before) presumably for about 7 days until next cycle Not sure why you would do prometrium before you cycle? I will be doing an FET in March/April, I started taking 4mg of estrace on cd 21. Anyways, just wanted to mention that in case you want to ask your RE about it. Any info welcomed!! I'm 36 & TTC 2 yrs. This is standard practice when ordering from Ukraine, according to customers wh. EPP is an aggressive form of an IVF Antagonist Protocol. I go in for bloodwork on March10th and will hopefully start patches a few days after that. Before gonadotropin is taken there is reason to believe that if a woman is given androgens like testosterone (often in patch form or gel form), it will help her follicles respond to gonadotropin. My first IVF cycle I was on the antagonist with stims started on Day 3.This was my best cycle as I had 8 follicles at retrieval, 7 retrieved and got three high grade (1 & 2) embryos. But I also realize I'm not a dr and should probably listen to their advice! I was not informed of this ahead of timeand was pretty upset that that they threw away something that might have had a chance. maternal age" i.e. They said they would put me in the 21 day long protocol. I know you ladies all have your own stuff going on and I feel terrible asking but I dont know who else to askBarb, penny, joy, anyone else, Ive read that an estrogen priming protocol is good for DOR women, do you know if this is true? Mar 15, 2011 #2. I am new to all this so I dont' even really know what all this means, but can anyone give me any guidance or advice? I'm so shattered that so few fertilized turns out that we have an egg quality issue. I started taking 4mg of estrace on cd 21. Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. I was 41 at SG and they also put me on BCPs and i knew it was going to oversupress me -- and it did. I hope your's goes lots better than mine! I need to know if anyone has had a similar experience, but later got pregnant and where did you go. They said that they look at FSH less now as they find it too unreliable. E2 level 96.4. Fortunately, there are a few steps you can take to prevent and. I am, Hi Ladies! ESTROGEN PRIMING ANTAGONIST IVF PROTOCOL 7,592 views Dec 27, 2020 Are you about to start IVF? Some people prefer the term Diminished Ovarian Reserve or Low Egg Reserve for patients who meet this criteria, as the ovarian response to medications for this group is not always necessarily poor, but rather is simply expected to be lower at their given baseline. Some reproductive endocrinologists will change the treatment strategy based on the number of follicles available at the start of the cycle. One of the most important steps in the in vitro fertilization is stimulating the ovaries to develop multiple eggs. I'm 35 and going through my first IVF cycle. So it seems to me it's time to change the protocol, do another cycle and gather more inform, I am 36 years old. You still may have a BFP, so let's wait to see before we say it didn't work!! The OOP meds program here at the Bump also was a life saver as we got meds for our 4th and 5th tries. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol cant use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. I imagine the Follistim is lowered partly to keep the egg number from increasing (had OHSS w/IVF #1). Second, this study was only done in cycles using a fresh transfer. The stim phase was just like a usual antagonist cycle. There are 2 - 3 core protocols: the Long Agonist, Antagonist and Flare. Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). Was wonderin, I just finished my 3rd failed IVF cycle using EPP. Have done 3 IUI's - 2 w. clomid and 1 with Gonal - F. I had a hyrdo on my left tube which had been removed and no left ovary to be found :( But I do have a good right tube & ovary. That sounds nuts to me, but my doctor said that it is normal. :) Keep us posted on your progress! A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. As a result, in fresh transfers the effects of gonadotropin are still present in a womans body her hormones are in flux and, as result, the uterus is less prepared to absorb the embryo upon transfer. Success depends on many factors, including the woman's age and the quality of the sperm. Until then, its hard to make a definitive call on whether these drugs work. Dwarf Mr Snow, Fred's Tie Dye, Saucy Mary, Sweet Scarlet, Kangaroo Paw Green, Idaho Gem and Banana Toes are just a few of the varieties one gardener is growing in a 4x8 bed of "bulletproof" tomatoes. In patients over 40 years old, after probably the 3rd round, the cumulative live birth rates are not increasing. What To Do When PGT-A & Grading Results Conflict? (51.2% vs 25%; p = 0.047) were noted. The meds alone cost $5,400. IVF#2 started sept 19th Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? Yes, we did the same thing. Thanks so much! I tried it and it seemed to help with even follicle growth but so some reason I had less eggs in the follicles than prior cycle when I was on bcp first? The deadline for sending in seeds was October 15th, but there are still plenty of ways to get involved. View Full Term. Some clinics use EPP more than others. However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. Fx! Hey ladies, I am about to start my second IVF cycle and this time instead of priming with birth control I am doing estrogen tablets 2mg twice a day as well as a pump of androgel. Had my ER today - they got 15 eggs. Below you can see that when investigators gave poor responders 450 IUs or 150 IUs per day, the groups had nearly identical success rates. Natural cycle is no meds to stim so u get 1 egg at best. 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These drugs help a woman grow multiple follicles, and thus multiple mature eggs. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. TTC with DOR (Diminished Ovarian Reserve), the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. Most of the encouraging studies have been in poor responders, but because the trials were so small, most never met statistical significance. During cycle 1 you use OPKs to track your LH surge and ovulation. it's 1 week since last patch. Estrogen priming through luteal phase and stimulation phase improved ovarian responsiveness and this may lead to an increase in pregnancy rate in poor responders with failed cycle. The hypothesis is that if we treat patients prior to starting their IVF cycle with estrogens ( the estrogen priming protocol) or androgens ( such as DHEA) , they will produce more eggs because more follicles will be recruited when we start the superovulation . Ultimately there are two protocol strategies doctors will use: either the Long Agonist or Antagonist protocols. Went to retrieval anyway, did ICSI, but it didn't fertilize. As we discussed there are drugs that stimulate follicles to grow, suppress the follicles ability to release their eggs, and then help catalyze the follicles to mature their eggs so they can be retrieved. Good luck! In that time a womans hormonal balance has been restored and so IVF cycles using a frozen transfer are more likely to work. Search IVF#4 November 2009 - one embryo survived to day 3 transfer - BFN They are concerned about egg quality. Its effective, but expensive, and raises the risk of OHSS. Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 I have hypothalamic anvolution, DH normal. Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. I would be doing a low stim protocol with estrogen priming. Typically, you also add other stims once you start your cycle, too (Menopur, GonalF), so those could be in high doses. How did it go with the EPP? It's a sort of "slow burn" methodology the hope being that they slow you way down and protect egg quality while allowing you to stim longer. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. It was day 3 of my period. I am on my first round of IVF (hopefully last!). By: Kelly Park I think the stims usually last longer with EPP, but my quality was much better. Really hope the next cycle goes well for you! Waiting for that call is sooo stressful! They did mature the next day, and they tried to fertilize them, but they did not. Create an account or log in to participate. Any success stories for low responders of Estrogen Priming cycle? IUI pregnancy rates can only be slightly better than the natural live birth rate offered by Mother Nature which is 10-15%. I'm struggling not to blame myself as my husband's swimmers are per. I think it helped keep my follicles all around the same size so that I didn't end up with some over-mature eggs and some under-mature eggs at retrieval. She recommends donor egg or dono, Hi, this is my first time posting, I would like any recommendations for an Ivf clinic/doctor, I did Ivf meds for 6 days in August and only had 2 follicles which were very small and the doctor recommended stopping the meds which we did. Just devastated with my results today so just want to cry it out and then I will respond to you. For patients younger than 35 years old, doing up to 5 cycles increase the chances of success, the cumulative rate will still be reasonable, it will be around 63%, according to a study from 2009. I am 37 with diminished egg reserve and a high estrogen level and need a doctor who will be more aggressive with the volume of meds so I can hopefully achieve my e, I need help. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, Hello, I was on BCP for 15 years and when I went off them I never got my period. However, sometimes when sliced open, white rings can appear in the flesh, a disorder known as "internal white tissue." Just not sure what type of protocol would be best. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. i had success with DE. You can be assured it is a good protocol. Started with our current RE in April 2017; diagnosis is unexplained infertility (everything came back fine for both me and my husband on all tests). When The Data Favors Freezing All Embryos, Issues Associated With Twin or Triplet Pregnancies. I just had my ER last week: stimmed for 13 days, started ganerilix on stim day 8, retreived 7 eggs, 3 were mature, 3 fertilized, 1 blastocyst was frozen today on day 5 and I have 2 morulas that will bhopefully be frozen tomorrow as long as they are blastocysts. Whats important to stress here is that just because some low dose approaches drive comparable rates of success to conventional approaches, that doesnt mean all low-or-no dose approaches are effective. I started my estrace this morning and feel a little icky so far. The reality is the data is sparse for most adjuvants and even amongst those with the most credible data, the quality of the trials have been fairly underwhelming. :-/. But not all patients respond equally to ovarian stimulation using these hormones. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. Clinical trial for In Vitro Fertilization | Gynecological Infections | assisted reproductive technology | Infertility | Diminished Ovarian Reserve | sterility | assisted reproductive technologies | unable to conceive | Female Genital Diseases , The LUTEAL Trial: Luteal Stimulation vs. Estrogen Priming Protocol I'm now 19 wks pregnant with #2 from embryo from same batch. Advertising Policy - Ugh, that made me feel like I was hit by a truck. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? From NE Ohio to North Central Mississippi, everyone has their own ideas and preferences for what they will plant this year. Im over 40 and did estrogen priming for a bunch of cycles and a Lupron stop. Estrogen priming attempt #1, late December 2019: during the luteal phase of that now IUI cycle, I took oral estrogen. I'm 45 and having a hard time accepting the reality of not having my own bio child. However, given some of the additional features for each protocol (for example, the duration of suppression), some patients might find one preferable to the others. I did estrogen and testosterone priming on my second ivf because I was oversuppressed during my first cycle. I hope you like the protocol. Thanks for sharing. This protocol is used almost exclusively in women whove had a poor response in a previous cycle or who have evidence of diminished ovarian reserve (AMH less than 0.5 or an AFC less than 5). The one thing I will say is that I am definitely stimming much longer than I did for my IVF #1 which did not have the esrogen. It's easiest to create a Word docume, Prevent & Address Internal White Tissue in Tomatoes | How to Maximize Potassium Uptake and Reduce Fungal Diseases, Tomatoes are a popular and nutritious vegetable that can be grown in gardens around the world. It would be great if it cleared up my skin because my skin has been terrible since my retrieval/chemical a few weeks ago! This hormone is injected by the patient and directly instigates the ovaries to grow more follicles. . Time is of the essence and whatever information we have, we are happy to share to help you! Gonal f 225, menopur 75. Specifically, poor responders (a less than pleasant way of referring to women who produce few eggs per retrieval), do equally well taking 150 IUs of gonadotropin as 450 IUs. Another distinctive feature between the two protocols is that the Long Agonist protocol calls for a longer stretch of drugs to block ovulation. I am praying this makes a huge difference. AMH 28. I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. Back to home page. Has anyone who makes a good amount of eggs used this protocol? Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. What affect did the epp have on your follicles? Also covering add-ons like human growth hormone. Most experts believe these women just dont seem to respond to increased doses and so above a pretty low threshold of gonadotropin, success rates dont seem to budge much. Our last cycle was such a bust! Unpacking IVF medication protocols to stimulate the ovaries -- from the basics to the details of different doses, strategies, and information for specific patient types on what might work best (e.g. Did they think estrogen helped with even follicle growth or egg quality? BabyCenter may earn a commission from shopping links. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Does anyone have experience with this? Heres an example from the same study. I have my follow up appt tomorrow after my first Ivf ended in a chemical and my nurse mentioned my dr might want to try this for the next round. I was on the highest dosage of Gonal with that cycle. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. We're not even 100% sure we are staying with my current clinic but I wanted to research ahead of time either way. I just had an appointment with an RE who told me that because of my high FSH levels there is low probability of me being able to get pregnant, but he also said that he could not do IVF or I could not take any fertility drugs because it would only be mimicking what my body is already trying to do and that is not even working. Dramatically lower the risk a woman will hyperstimulate it to try June 22nd, 2007!!. Using estrogen priming attempt # 1, late December 2019: during the luteal phase of now... 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